Are you Racist?
Follow @gaijinassAt some time around maybe 1996, my younger brother and I were sitting in a Volvo station wagon in North Charleston, South Carolina, ordering some chicken.
Bojangles. We were at the Bojangles in North Charleston (a horrible place) getting chicken and biscuits and french fries because someone had called us (a parent) and asked us to do this. Buying Chicken can be serious business. Buying anything in North Charleston can be a test of ones will to live; anyone that has ever been to the decrepit hell hole known as “North Woods Mall” can attest to this fact. But if one is going to buy chicken and if it’s going to be fast food, Bojangles is by far the preferred option.
I was in the driver’s seat and my brother was in the co-pilots spot and we pulled up to the menu at the drive-thru. We ordered the “Big Bo Box” which for those of you that don’t know is a nightmarish box filled with chicken, whatever other crap you ordered and “Iced Tea”. I then asked if we could also order another portion of beans and rice, six people eating in our family and the “Bo Box” would be devoured in mere moments of entering the home.
Now, as I ordered the beans and rice I could sense a certain amount of impatience in the voice of the human on the other end of the speaker. Despite the drive-thru speaker having the audio quality of a toilet being flushed in a wind tunnel, she was making her displeasure with our extravagant requests known. So when my brother leaned over me and shouted into the speaker “oh and another Ice-Tea, Medium please.” That was simply too much, and the super high-caliber go-getter working on the other end of the speaker shouted back “Damn Honky OK pull up!”
Damn. Honky.OK.Pull.Up.
This was followed by a stunned silence in the Volvo station wagon there in North Charleston. I slowly pulled the car up to the window, and gave a very robust, full-figured black woman our cash and she hurriedly stuffed our massive bag of chicken and shit into our car window. Change, old filthy dollar bills and some nickels or something were tossed into the car.
We drove off slowly.
Within half a minute my brother and I were in full hysterics. It was difficult to drive I was laughing so hard. I had never been called a Honky before and it was absolutely fantastic.
That was, I suppose, my first clear-cut experience with racism. I have lived in Japan now for eight years and have traveled extensively so since my Bojangles experience, I have had to deal with racist people of all varieties many times.
That’s not what this is about today though.
In case you missed this tidbit of internet happenings, Reddit, the self-proclaimed “front page of the internet” had some technical trouble a month ago. One user posted a very particular question starting a new thread that received so much traffic it nearly shut the site down.
“What extremely controversial thing(s) do you honestly believe, but don’t talk about to avoid the arguments?”
This received thousands and thousands of responses within hours and the volume of traffic was a real technical issue.
Ok- so I don’t give a solitary fuck about Reddit or technical internet issues.
The question though, is a very interesting one. I’d like to slightly reframe it.
“What controversial things do you really believe about a group of people or a country, that you don’t talk about in order to avoid confrontations, period?”
Maybe you really feel a particular stereotype about the Japanese is true. Maybe you ARE Japanese and think “Yes, in fact foreign people are all incredibly fat.”
Whatever. Bring it. I am asking anyone and everyone that reads this to comment honestly. Comment about whatever you want or think regarding anything pertaining to the topic. If you have to use an alias do it. We won’t call you out. It’s just something that seems conversation worthy and it got me thinking about some of my own preconceived notions.
Allow me to start-
I honestly believe that 99% of foreigners here, even long-term ex-pats simply do not “get it”. We don’t understand the Japanese. Just about all of our ideas about why they do this or that are complete bullshit and most of the time we just float along in our little sea of self-righteousness totally unaware of the stress and problems we cause to the natives we deal with. MOST of the time, not all, but most of the time for most of us we are not assets here but liabilities.
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Gaijinass 
I’m pretty sure I’m singled out for every little fopaux i commit. maybe I’m just too sensitive to being staid at… but i was handed a card the other day. literally a card with the words in English, “please control the volume of your headphones.” i’m sorry for party rocking lady (i mean that literally if you get the musical reference) but i know within my heart of hearts, she would have not done the same to a Japanese person, in with a card or verbally.
And just last night, I was told i want aloud to drink my beer in the seating area in-front of 7-11 (in Japanese) while having a sign I had missed pointed out to me and my companion. At the table behind us was a poorly quaffed ojiisan with a “tall-boy.” The 7-11 employee ignored him and went back inside.
Basically what I’m saying is, I get called out here for things that would be ignored if i was Japanese.
I hear that. I had a clearly insane woman once pull out an old index card, “laminated” with scotch tape that read “Please do NOT use your portable phone near the courtesy seats. You could kill someone. Thank you.” The thing was, I wasn’t seated in or even standing in front of the courtesy seats. I just smiled and walked away.
And I got busted once in The Hub in Shibuya. After working out I met some mates there for drinks. It’s just after my workout and I needed to eat the eggs I had with me. So, I proceed to eat the eggs at our table. Anyway I end up getting balled out by the manager, a cute little girl, and no less than five minutes later we spot a table of 3, all Japanese girls sharing some cookies one of the girls had brought in. Nobody talked to them. So my friend went and ratted them out. Oddly enough, they didnt get a thrashing just a kind request.
I honestly hate white people. I have this huge rant I could go into if you really want any detail on that. It would be a lot of me babeling,so if your interested let me know and I will post it on my blog. If you, after reading it, think it warrants a place here then you could let me know and I would be more than willing to copy paste.
Still though, maybe just saying I hate white people is enough. Although that really doesn’t get the full extent of it across. Yes I am mostly white and have many white friends.
Other silly stuff that I believe but don’t go into to much detail about as far as race…..well, I think the Japanese are the pinacle of human evolution. No, I am not kidding. Well that is enough for now cause any more detail and I start sounding as crazy as I look.
I want that rant on this blog as soon as possible! I’d also be interested in hearing your case for the Japanese being the pinnacle of anything at all.
I will get the rant title up on my blog tonight (I hate white people) and should have the rant done within seven days. It is the end of term so finals and all. The anti white rant I think makes some okay points.
Not gonna lie though, I have beer goggles, for japanese women, on 24/7. Therefore my arguments about the Japanese are probably all very insane, totally biased, and without any real merit. Might include the Japanese stuff at the end of the rant anyways.
Hey this is the internet. Whatever. Looking for people to just let it go. why not?
Uh I love Japan too but nobody’s perfect so before you go Japanese Hitler on white people because the Japanese is the perfect race to you think about what you are saying before you say it racist.
James, Hitler was a flawed white man.
Really the Japanese are the pinacle of human evolution thats a really stupid to say because all humans are equal no one’s better the other like for japan has huge problems just like everywhere else like for instance Japan has a high suicide rate,pedophiles,rapists,mafia aka yakuza,Serial killers,corrupt politicians,thiefs,cyber pirates,unwed parents ,child abuse,spouse abuse,sexual harassment,bullies and pregnant teenage mothers just like the rest of the world so do not even continue with this whole perfect race crap ok cause every country has its negatives and it positives but no country truly better then the other but I will partly agree on your view of white people because I have a lot of cool best friends and they’re white but then in high school there were these mean white bullies who treated me like shit and called me names for being different from them but I do not hate white people because of that cause if I did hate white people then where would that leave my friends i known for so many years then that would mean that hate their guts and I do not like them because of their race and I do not like that at all but what i AM TRYING 2 SAY IS that do not say the japanese are a perfect race because they are not, they are just like the rest of the world they have amazing cultures and they have there share of problems as well and about that thing about hating white people you don’t hate white people, you just hate certain white people because come on, you have white friends so how can you say you hate white people think about them before you say stuff like that ok and sorry about the whole hitler and racist I just got so mad when you said the japanese were the pinacle of the human race and that hated white people because I love japan so much but that does not mean that the japanese better than the rest of us as I said before we are all equal all countries have there own strengths and weaknesses which make them unique and different from everyone else but there is no such thing as a perfect race because just like that bad Hanna Montona song I heard once says Nobody’s Perfect. See what I did there;) BUT ANYWAY SORRY.
James, have you ever argued with a mentally insane person before? I do hate white people. My white friends know that I hate the white part of them. My wiccan friend knows I hate wicca and consider her entire religion built by fat sorry losers. In fact everytime we see eachother she listens to my rant about her religion being crap. We have gotten that introduction down to 5 minutes now so it doesn’t even get in the way of emergencies or urgent things. I collect people I mean make friends based on their unique qualities that interest me. I still hate the parts I hate and they live with it. While most countries and cultures may be similar and have similar issues the whites are severely less evolved. Just sad genetics. I still do think what I think about Japan being the greatest. You do realize the post was all about racism right? Anyway I liked the song ending thing you did even if it wasn’t a musician I like.
I know this article is like 3 years old at this point, but your comment made me login here and reply….
I approve. Absolutely golden song!
” I think the Japanese are the pinacle of human evolution”
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Not too often it occurs, that I can’t think of what to say.
This would be one.
@the OP
Knoxville TN was the worst place I have ever been in my fucking life
http://badboyinjapan.blogspot.com/2011/01/hithhiking-with-rednecks-almost-died-pt.html
Almost died by the hands of my fellow white albeit inbreed brethren.
I have little to no love for those areas as well. I understand.
“Not too often it occurs, that I can’t think of what to say.
This would be one.”
Still laughing here. Because it really is THE FIRST TIME I’ve ever seen you speech less.
I’m not one for controversy, being the meek little mouse that I am, but I’m also very obedient so here you go. I’ve started to think us gaijins aren’t every bit as guilty of generalising and stereotyping the Japanese as they are of us. There are plenty of racist foreigners, and some who cloak their racism in “well, I live here, so I’m just stating the truth, I’m not racist or anything”. and they are just as bad as Japanese people who tell me “I’m not a typical Japanese, I’ve been abroad and have many foreign friends”.
Also, would love to read the “why I hate white people” rant.
I agree with you. I just think the roots are different. From my experience, it seems the majority of the racist crap I get from the Japanese I know is based on ignorance. Where as most of the racism I get from expat friends/acquaintances is based on genuine dislike derived from past experiences.
You want positive, or negative? Seems like we’re sticking with race, too.
‘Pinnacle of evolution’ I don’t know, but I do think that Japanese DNA was heavily selected for primary and secondary sexual characteristics, though not to everyone’s tastes (T&A: some like quantity over quality). Now my haphazard survey of Japanese, Anglo-white, Ashkenazi, Bengali, Cantonese and Hakka is far from exhaustive, but it shows most Japanese women are unexciting lays, right? (Hmm… most women are, period). However, honky keeps going back. Why? Only people I’ve seen with skin this smooth are Korean, and I haven’t been there. Also, simply the sweetest, snuggest…
Hmmm…I guess it depends on ones definition of an “exciting lay”. Right? Based on what the majority of my Euro/American female friends define an exciting lay to be, sure the Japanese might not live up to that, but perhaps that isn’t what some men find exciting.
When former olympian Miho Yamada smiles on Female Ninja Warrior (female mount sasuke, a gameshow out of japan) and her eyes disapear I almost feint…Yeah just seeing a Japanese woman smile is such an amazing thing to me…holding hands would deffinately lead to a heart attack. It is probably best that none of the Japanese foreign exchange students talk to me at the college. I once got strange looks for wearing a shirt that says “it is illegal to urinate here” in Kanji. I love that shirt. Ahh to be a Japanese buisness man, peeing where ever the urge strikes… Yeah I know its not that bad, but hey the signs exist. Gonna order a “no gropping on train” T-shirt next summer. Whoa I got off topic. Pills must be kicking in.
That is the truth, ‘gaijinass’. Maybe I do like ’em passive, but haven’t owned up to it. Sure haven’t found a J-girl to take the initiative, except in play. Can’t say they are all ‘dead-fucks’ as I have had one so dead the others looked all raunch. Still… something to say for a girl who just likes getting drilled…
That is some straight talk there “Mr.S.” But I understand. Mimicking what you saw in a ridiculous porno loosely based on the premise behind “Deep Space 9” is not what I would call “Sexy”. “Deep Sexy Nine inches” No. No thank you.
dunno a lot of the girls here keep doing the dead rat position when we start to
to have sex, gets me every time I almost bust out laughing. and they get tired too easily. sometimes i miss Mexican women, but then i remember the Japanese girls are a lot less violent and wont stab me with a kitchen utensil, and it doesn’t take much motivation though to make them go for round two though just give em a 5 min break and some Gatorade. Jut wish they were more proactive during the love making.
They are out there. I know this for a fact. Don’t give up hope.
Hello, my name is John and I am a racist.
It wasn’t always like this.
Years ago, before I came to know any of the cross eyed little buggers I though the japs were cool. Corky, funny looking with their short legs and oversized melons but OK. Now I can’t stand the little fokkers.
Their annoyingly stupid pointless little habits, their all encompassing need to follow and never question pointless rules, their never ending complaints how busy they are, their chronic inability to disassociate from their boring jobs even for a minute, their constant use of “Japanese” in front of every bloody noun, as in Japanese sake, Japanese shinkanzen, Japanese sushi, for fecks sakes there is no Cuban sushi, no Mexican sake and there is definitely no Albanian shinkanzen, arseholes. And that annoying irashaimase will make me ritually disembowel myself with a rusty spoon right after I stab a few of the airheads who walk around in stores and randomly screams it for no apparent reason as there is nobody around them and they can’t even see the front door!! Shut up already feckers! Every passing year I hate them more,everything overpriced, hotels, stores overheated, bras understuffed, god how I long for some double Ds. Dumb, dimwitted, bucktoothed, infantile ninja boys in perpetual arrested development. I so wish that a god dam Godzilla would come one day and just swallow the whole focking island in one fell swoop with anime and cosplay, manga and otaku, salaryman and office lady and Michiko and Taro, fuck ’em all. And I am just warming up…
You are clearly passionate…about this. Hey, I asked for it. Thanks for the comment.
Neary here:
First of all, I would like to say that Bojangles has amazing biscuits. That aside, I have a tendency to ignore racism as it is something of a childish response within the structure of human behaviors. Everything we consider “racist” whether it is giving or receiving, is personality driven.
I will use (Maybe you really feel a particular stereotype about the Japanese is true. Maybe you ARE Japanese and think “Yes, in fact foreign people are all incredibly fat.”) as my example. Take a look at the world. Many foreign (to Japan) people are incredibly fat. That is a truth. The “racism” comes out when said fatness is also linked to laziness and poor decisions (generally the truth). The people that make those decisions get their feelings hurt when the truth is spoken about them. People aren’t saying racist things about you, they are telling you the flat out truth. You are fat, lazy, and make poor decisions. To the “racists”, you are a liability to the human race. You give the rest of us humans a bad name.
My personal experiences with racism are lengthy. I worked with GA for a couple of years (and still work there myself) in a place where people of many races work together in close and extended proximity. I have had people at work call me or my co-workers racist because we let them know that they are bad at their job, or have a general poor attitude. I don’t care what you look like, I care that you can perform.
I deal with the racists in one simple statement. I tell them that what they need is for something drastic to happen to them, and that they need to be saved from that drastic situation by the target demographic of their racism. Generally the response is “I would rather die.” to which I respond “Then go out and do it.”.
I have had my life saved, and saved the lives of people of all different races. That is what I do. That is what good humans in general do.
I have had expats in countries across the world help me with things from local language barriers, to which districts in a city are owned by the mafia, and where I can go for a great local meal. They do it because it keeps the flow of the culture they (and we) are transplanted into flowing smoothly. They don’t want people to fall victim to danger or crime because it (in the long run) can jeopardize their own existence in said culture.
I had the joy of being in Tokyo last year for about 3 days. I am not 18 or 20 years old. I have also traveled to many places in the world and seen many things both good and bad. I am no expert on humanity nor do I claim to be world renowned. I do however understand basic human elements and can distinguish the diversities from culture to culture.
I found my stay in Tokyo to be one of the most “faith in humanity” restoring events of my life. I had people stop to help me out on many occasions. For some it was their jobs, for others it was not. Regardless, these people took the time out to interrupt whatever they were doing to help me. I am an outsider, a foreigner. I also showed thanks and respect to their culture at all times, and was in return given thanks and respect.
I was smoking just on the outside of a public smoking area in Shinjuku. I must have been 5 meters outside of the smoking area. I did not even notice since there was no clear boundary. My friend and I just saw people smoking nearby and considered it safe to do so. A man approached us wearing a policeman’s uniform with an orange vest on. He must have been in his late 50’s or early 60’s. He spoke to us in slow broken English explaining that we were outside of the permitted smoking area, and showed us where we needed to be. I responded with an apology and a thank you and moved to the designated area. The gentleman smiled at us and thanked us. He then lit up his own cigarette and began to converse with us about our stay. We spoke for about 10 minutes then he left us to resume his duties. This was one of many times that people were polite and respectful to us when we were lost to the culture and it’s idiosyncrasies.
I feel that as a whole that they aren’t being racist to you, but that they are doing their parts to police the human race for the betterment of it. They realize that they are part of a machine, and that they must do what they can to help it move forward, even if it means sacrificing some of their precious time (and I thank you for it) to grease the squeaky wheel. If the shoe fits……
Since you felt the need to randomly say that you are not eighteen or twenty I feel the need to randomly say I am thirty one. The squeeky wheel gets the kick huh? I prefer these two I have heard in Japanese movies “The nail that stands out gets pounded down” and “If the hammer is light the nail will pop out again”.
With age comes experience. (Generally) I am in my mid 30’s. I have spent about 5 years of my life treading soil that I wasn’t born on. Anyone who has past the mid 20’s and done extensive travelling should understand both cultures and how to be respectful of them. I have heard plenty of stories from people I know (some of them first hand) about people fresh out of high school or on break from university ending up in jail for a few weeks, or getting robbed blind by grifters and mafia/warlord outfit types. Even the experienced can get caught unaware from time to time. “If the hammer is light the nail will pop out again”. I know someone like that. I love to travel. One day when I retire, that is mainly what I will do. For the record, I also hate white people. (I am white as well. In fact Potz, you and I might even be able to pass as brothers.) I’d love to see your rant.
Although I do not hate white people as a whole, because I think that would be the definition of ignorance and racism, there are sub-groups that I would rather not associate with. Pretentious and completely ignorant republican/democrat (whats the difference really?) Soccer moms and they’re small town strip mall hierarchies. People that tan regularly and have spent a fortune on orthodontics but are clearly 30 pounds overweight. My generation of the middle class and how so many people feel they are entitled to something; respect or a great career or all the plastic disposable trappings of the middle class illusion. They lecture everyone else about the political views (lies) that were brain washed into them at some half ass university while they stuff another handful of cheese cake into their face and pretend to be listening to you but in reality are just thinking about what they want to say next. The fake alliances. The obsession with getting the latest WHATEVER, Iphone for ASS or some new ridiculous digital media apparatus so they can bitch about illegal immigration but seem to have forgotten that the entire country was founded upon just that. Yeah, those things annoy.
I think I failed to make myself clear. Stereotyping and racism might be cousins but they are not the same. For Racism here, I will use an example. Two statements. These are just EXAMPLES to illustrate a point: “I hate Niggers.” That is a very racist comment. Probably one of the worst comments someone can say, barring that someone being a black comedian then it’s totally fine and nobody minds. Now in Japan, foreigners are referred to as “Gaijin”. The politically correct term would be Gaikokujin but generally people stick with “Gaijin”. Gaijin can be used harmlessly, or in the same breath can have the exact same level of disgust and hatred as it’s “N” brother up there. “Stupid Gaijin” is a racist statement on par with “Stupid Nigger” or “Stupid Gook” etc. Just a purely racist comment. Generally mumbled by some cranky drunk bastard as he passes in a subway tunnel. This is more the racism I was thinking of. And it’s pretty inexcusable.
“Hello, my name is John and I am a racist.
It wasn’t always like this.
Years ago, before I came to know any of the cross eyed little buggers I though the japs were cool.”
#1 Hi John!
You’d fit perfectly in a Narcotics or Alcoholics Anonymous group. That’s the intro right there. 🙂
Lotta failed ALT’s would love to say what you did but that would be admitting that this country didn’t live up to their manga inspired dreams. And they sent 1 to 2 years of their lives getting laughed at or victimized by some good ole’ Japanese country fried racism.
+2 for honesty. Nothing is for everybody.
I didn’t actually know what honky meant, so I’ve learnt something today.
I don’t know if I’m a liability or not. Some things just get to a point where you’ve gotta make a problem about it, otherwise I would lose it. For me it would be:
The constant inwardness, the arrogance of people telling you how to use your own native language when they’ve watched some shitty NHK show a few times, that us-them mentality that usually starts off with wareware, I pretty much hate the word we because of this. Old cunts who think it is their duty to educate you, but are just bums who failed at life and don’t know shit anyway. Being treated like a tourist after living here for years. No, I don’t know or care about the Great Barrier Reef or Uluru or that the seasons are opposite in the southern hemisphere, did someone make a phrase book for this? If you have nothing to say over a beer, how about a dirty joke or vacuous sports talk? I’m sure that’s what you do between yourselves. The way they make you look stupid with illogic and box you into a corner with their stupid questions like “are Japanese women ok,” I mean, I think most women are ok, but I have to say yes anyway? Do I have to choose which race’s breasts and genitals make me the most aroused? I don’t think the cock’s that fussed to be honest, but I’ll just say yes anyway. People who brush their teeth three times a day, but then don’t floss so when they come and speak over your shoulder you can smell last week’s yakiniku in its semi-decayed state. People who work 12 hours a day not doing much and take 4 weeks to email you an already made document because they were so busy doing nothing but looking busy. People who make a big fuss over you speaking/reading/writing your address or something or talking in a small voice because they think you wont understand them and then you can’t hear them so they think the stereotype has come true again.
I don’t know if it’s just white people, probably spoilt people in general, but fuck I hate people with child’s palates, you know the one’s when they were a kid their parents put the vegies in the blender or just gave up, rather than making them eat it. I know people who won’t eat any vegetable other than potatoes, the same person who goes around at the pub and tells everyone to man up. Why don’t you man up and eat a fucking tomato or apple you masculine blokey man! Even worse is that Japanese accomodate this because it gives them joy when something comes along and confirms all of their fucked up stereotypes of obese people who can eat nothing other than hamburgers. Just make them eat it, as long as it’s not whale or still moving, what’s the big deal. Just put it in your mouth and give it a go. People who get shitty when they can’t eat fast food or chocolate, just be thankful you can fucking eat. Japanese who whinge about spicy things like their taihen job. People who think they deserve a ‘treat’ because they got out of bed and went to work or something as equally insignificant. People who get mad about some Chinese/Arabic signs in Sydney and demand that they ‘fit in’ and then go over to some place in sth-east Asia and walk around in a Muslim country with a beer in their hand and their tits and arse hanging out, in a drunken mob thinking that they are really amazing. Cunts who go around sprouting rubbish about how the west is so free and democratic and awesome and yeah, good job on Iraq my brother-in-arms and then pick up their paper who is owned by the same guy who owns 80% of the media and starts laughing at the hippies/commies/faggots/university students/dole bludgers that were in a peaceful protest and were forcefully moved along by the police, before they get in their car owned by the bank and drive around on roads full of speed cameras and cops everywhere, finally throwing their maccas cup at a cyclist in celebration of said freedom.
I don’t know if this shit can be categorised per race?
Cracker is another racist term for white people, so is “The Man” when it is used in any negative sense. Redneck and hick are generally reserved for a subset of white people whom are also generally refered to as white trash. Mentally insane diseased lump of defective genes is my favorite way to refer to white people. Fat lazy stupid American seems to generally fit white people, even if they are not from America. White devil is a good one. Stupid F^(#ing White Man is a classic reference from two Jim Jarmusch films.
The Mud races refered to in some translations of the bible actually refers to white people, as I will eventually explain in my rant (whenever I finish that post).
Oh and I so wanna try whale meat some day. I do not want to eat HUMBOLT SQUID, ever, or even stand near someone who has, cause lets face it the ARE taking over the world! Man a honey badger would be about the only thing that could take on a humbolt squid. Yeah Humbolt Squids are the smartest thing ever and have less morals than Satan, but a Honey badger is wired wrong.
You know most things that have a brain come with a fight or flight response. Some things have just a flight response. Its standard survival to have either of those two. A Honey badger just has fight. Its response to anything, any kind of anything is FIGHT! The eat a poisonous snake and nearly die in agonizing pain. When they come to its not “well that was stupid, I am never doing that again!”, its “OH THATS IT WHERE IS ANOTHER OF THOSE I AM GONNA EAT IT TWICE AS FAST FOR THAT AND GET ANGRY AS I DO IT!
God I need absinthe.
Not easily. And some of it I agree with. It does feel like that often, that when initially talking to a new Japanese acquaintance, it’s almost like they are trying to fish for a stereotype that fits. “Oh ok so you like sports and you are tall, you must love steak correct?” No, I don’t really like steak at all I prefer fish or chicken. It’s no different than if I sat down with a black guy from Philly and said “I see you are black so you like fried chicken, watermelon and you can’t swim right?” And doing this in all seriousness. That I understand and it annoys me too. The constant same questions over and over and over and without fail, within the first 5 minutes of talking to any Japanese male I am always asked “Do you like Japanese girls?” Gets old. Got old.
Nice rant of a comment by the way. I like it.
Cousins or not, I think that peoples opinions are just that. Unless that person has some overwhelming impact on me then who gives a shit? I get it at work because of my work history. People assume things based on what I have done or where I have been. Some of it may be true, but some of it is just pure speculation. I set the record straight only if and when I have to. People in all countries wonder why foreigners are there. Sometimes it’s just small talk. It can be annoying, but I have a tendency to ask people questions in return. What do you do for a living? Do you like your job? Have you ever been to California? Anything works. Like I said I generally just roll most peoples opinions off my back and walk away. I do have to agree that white people as a whole make for quite a bit of drama on the world scale whether it’s politics, religion, diet, or laziness. People who are genuine about getting to know you will generally blow off any stereotype of you once you engage them in conversation. Maybe I AM missing the mark, but to me I just do what I do. You want to eat shark fin ice cream? Go for it. I like heart attack biscuits and gravy you can build a brick wall with. I’ll try most things once. Some things I will try twice if I wasn’t sure about it. I carve my own path when I can. But mostly when I deal with people I don’t know on their home turf, I do my best to show respect to them even if they are assholes. It gives them no leg to stand on about your character. If I don’t like what you have to offer, I will go somewhere else. It’s that simple. Selfish, but in the end I don’t worry about what others think about me. I worry about what I think of me. I know that what most people think about you that don’t really know you doesn’t make you lose sleep at night Eric. I know that generally you run in a small circle, and are protective of its contents. I know that if you had to fake your way through something, that it would piss you off to no end. You never were the guy to draw attention to yourself intentionally, and your people skills make up for anything else. Being a gaijin is just part of who you are now. Plus if it really comes down to nastiness, you can just do the man dance……
I get my points and ideas across better in person. That day will come Eric. I am planning on it. Single malts on me. Interesting thread though my friend. You never disappoint.
JP man this comment is you to a deep T. Thanks. You line up the single malts and I’ll bring the cigars.
Lets try to remember these are a people (the Japanese) built on group thought, group work and organization. Its not that they are trying to put you in a stereotype. They grow up thinking everything has its place in the mass and that everyone fits into a group. They are just going by what the hive does. In its own way its a sort of acceptance.
Your some strange out of place piece showing up and throwing the assembly line off so they have to put you into the proper spot and then they can relax and accept your being there and all is well and as it should be again. Individuals don’t really happen in their minds. It is just how things are done.
They place themselves in groups as well. Once you are in place they may decide to hang around you if you fit into the group type that they do. If you are not a good group match for them then they will move on, unless of course your from a group that is at odds with them.
I think anyone that has lived here or spent time with the Japanese know and understand all that you just covered. That’s the point. The stock questions and annoying comments are actually just a way for them to marginalize you and not have to accept you on any sort of meaningful level. This shit stops if you manage, somehow, to infiltrate into the ranks in a meaningful way. I have done this in kickboxing. I’ve gotten deep into it and a lot of the pretenses and BS vanished, only to be replaced by the stress of actually being integrated into the system I was looking at from the outside earlier. I have said it before and I’ll say it again- If I was Japanese, or if I was expected to behave and live 100% within the Japanese systems that are considered “mainstream” I would move to another country. And that’s what a lot of Japanese people I encounter DREAM of doing. Being Japanese in Japan is stressful, and I’m happy I’m not one of them. That having been said, it doesn’t make there backhanded compliments and marginalizing techniques any less annoying and occasionally painful. But like JP said below, being who we are, who I am, I have to simply continue to remember what Eric Barnes is all about and stay centered.
So if I read it correctly…Gaijin said that most Japanese people dream of moving outside the country? This translates to me as, my super-awesome, amazing, reason for waking up, pen pal probably wants to move out of Japan. hmmm…How can I not F this up? Whoa getting dizzy. Happy thoughts overload.
Being different sucks balls, no way around it. Something about me says I don’t fit in and sends this creepy feeling to everyone that sees me. Doesn’t matter how I dress, cut my hair, or act. I get looks of disgust, fear, repulsion, and it just makes me want to die.
I am the creepy, mal-nurished, rabid dog that wanders into your yard. I am mentally insane and not in any cool, or fun, or even respectable way and somehow everyone can just tell. My mental insanity is irational thoughts, panic, fear, grudge holding anger and extreme paranoia (I study psych for fun and take psych classes and soc classes when ever I can and yes I know the real names for my problems and yes I spent a weekend in a mental ward and got confirmation of my problems, but if you want to know what they are you can go F*** yourself cause I don’t want to be known for my problems I want to be normal and happy). I keep it in check, but people can just see I am not right and shouldn’t be around. It is never fun, or funny, or cool like in the movies and on T.V. . It is irational and terrifying. It doesn’t make me seem like the loaner rebel that gets all the chicks, thats movies, women call me creepy.
For the next eighteen months all of my college loan difference checks are going to be going to the people that did this to me. I am having flashbacks living here in this basement, on a cot, freezing cause they won’t turn on the heat and have space heaters in their rooms. The loan difference checks need to go back towards paying off the loans, or the ridiculous interest will dig a hole I can’t get out of. They don’t care, they will kick me out as soon as I don’t use my Gov. food card to get their food, or lose the college money. They don’t think I should even be in college as I am the boy they never wanted and they keep trying to get me to quit or fail. They are tickled pink that my sister is in college and even help pay her bills and so on.
I was born to girls clothes and toys and two absolutely disgusted, angry, disapointed parents. They reminded me often that they wanted a girl and got one six years later. Now I am going to be supporting these two as they try to get me to flunk out of college. I won’t be able to send my pen pal gifts anymore and may not even be able to keep writing her. There is email though. Still she is always asking about my family, my parents. Can’t avoid those questions forever.
Oh and the real name thing was kinda creepy to me. I was more comfortable when everyone was going by their wordpress handles. My real name is Eric Storm and it used to be Eric Rupe till I changed it. I hate the curvy C in it why the hell didn’t they give me a manly K. Potzo I got from a placemat at a Godfather’s Pizza that had this thing where you figure out your mafia name based on your birthday. Mine came out Potzo “the Pineaple” Santalucci.
Wow the middle portion of this filth I just wrote is a bunch of whinny, give me sympathy, I am only defined by my problems BullS***! Anyway good post I hope it keeps gettin responses so I can see if other people have weird racist issues or other offensive crazy beliefs. That kind of stuff interest me. Studying how others think. I am not this much of a complainer in real life. Just woke up a bit ago and got hit with the news that I am broke and rackin up debt for the next 18 months and maybe more.
I need whiskey.
Not too many people really directly responding to the question in the blog here though, kinda feel bad gettin off topic with this now. A whole lotta people sayin stuff about Japanese stereotypin, but no one really going off. I need to get that rant finished. The problem I had with responding to this is that since everyone is gonna assume the worst about me in any given situation (in everday, real world, not on net life) I tend to just say whatever I feel like and keep very little to myself. So really the I hate white people was the only thing I could think of.
I have, I think, largely discussed some stereotypes or ideas I have that may or may not be true but I generally let them affect me. Anyway, People will discuss what they want. If our articles here get anyone thinking, one way or another, that’s good. Your comments are always appreciated.
By the way- What I said was most of the Japanese I KNOW dream or moving abroad. This means, the Japanese that have some sort of intrinsic interest in foreign countries. This would not be the bulk of mainstream Japanese society. Also, as Yosomono has covered in some articles, sometimes, once these dreamers actually get a good look at their “dream” location, they walk away heavily disappointed or disillusioned. Paris is always more complex than they portray in the movies. Los Angeles is not filled to the brim with gorgeous movie stars alone and New York, despite all it’s efforts will always be…well, New York.
I agree with Potz 100%. They do have a hive mentality. They are very organized across the board. They have a communal aspect to them that spans across nearly every facet of their being. Workers on a construction site assembling for morning calisthenics comes to mind. They do also group themselves much like workers, drones, and even some queens. This way of life is something that I respect and admire. If you are out of place, you cause varying stages of panic or discomfort. Once they know where you fit in though, all is right in the world (more or less). I thought my stay in Tokyo was amazing. I went to some of the rural areas as well to see things. The way of life and thinking is the same no matter where in Japan you are. There are many hives, but in the end they are all part of that bigger hive. Tokyo itself to me was mind blowing. I likened Shinjuku as the CPU of Tokyo with everything else branching out of it.
Being different is hard Eric. By that I mean that living honestly (to yourself) , having some kind of intellect (scholarly, street, or otherwise), being able to survive without someone holding your hand every step of the way, AND being able to pass on those skill sets to another person (child, friend, or whatever). That is different. That is hard. Having people question that (even if that isn’t their true intent) can make you also question it. I have at times used a line that I stole from a song when people are pushing the limits of my discipline. “So eager to say hello, but you don’t know me”. It “politely” gives someone the yellow light letting them know to slow down some and check both ways before they get hit by cross traffic.
People (even those that don’t immediately know you Eric) know you are different (as stated above). Intimidation is a most primal feeling. When people who aren’t different (as stated above), see someone who is, they become submissive in their subconscious. The psyche immediately responds by “sniffing” you out with a series of questions designed to figure out if they are “your next meal”.
I will leave you with this Eric. Once the questioner has “figured” you out, they will often make some sort of acknowledgment that they have. If they smile at you, remember this; some smiles show joy, other smiles just show teeth.
This thread took off, every time I came back there was another volume on the list.
I’m glad you liked my rant as I certainly enjoyed typing it. When I get the cliche questions I literally envision something like the scenario you described above, but me doing it, which screws with my head because it’s not something that should be done, yet the Japanese guy or whatever is doing it so in earnest that I get something in my brain like typing 22/7 into a calculator, but worse. Like you said, it gets old and some days it makes my soul shrivel up like some katsuobushi just put on top of a hot okonomiyaki.
I understand what you get with the kickboxing, I get the same with cycling. Once we get to the top of the mountain, all of the BS stops and we’re just some people on bikes. Works even better if you kicked their arse.
Potzo, I reckon you’d be alright if you got around to typing up that rant onto your blog. We are all waiting for you. What sort of place do you live in? If it is typical suburbia, then anyone a little different gets castrated, so get out of there as soon as you can. I’ve never been to the US, so I wouldn’t know, but just go somewhere where no one gives a shit, rather than where everyone is obsessed with their front lawn.
A lot of the people that are around me now have no desire to move away from Japan, which is good because they teach you all the good parts about the country: by good I mean actually good is a realistic way and not nihonjinron construed rubbish. Most people I guess have that illusion based on movies and so forth, when I imagine life would be very tough, especially at first. It makes me think of that Shogo Hamada song called America. A few guys around probably have that song on repeat in their heads.
I’m no better, I have never been to New York, so when I think of it I get some image of a graffitied train bursting out of the ground like in a Sick of it All video, with people break dancing to Grandmaster Flash and spray painting on the side of a building a black guy with one of those caddy hats on holding a spray can with an ironic smile or something with Madball in the background telling us how tough the streets of NY are.
That time period you are referring to and before it is when NYC still had BALLS. I mean they weren’t covering it all up. I think a lot, most of, the respect NYC gets for its reputation, the arts, the creativity and vitality comes from 30 years ago. But whatever. The 21st century ruined NYC. Opinion.
And I agree, there are a lot of great things in Tokyo. that’s why I live here. It’s finding a balance and learning to circumvent the hype.
Let me guess, Giuvanni (dunno the spelling) fucked it all up?
Yeah, I saw some footage of some critical mass riders getting arrested for riding in a group of 50 or more without a permit. Surely that’s a lot more Stalinist than any welfare reforms, you would think.
Yeah him and everyone else that turned Manhattan into Disney Land.
Mo I don’t live in suburbia. I live in an angry little factory town that has two bars for each church and a hell of a lot of churches. It has hicks, rednecks, hippies, mexican gangbangers in culture shock and more. The basement I am staying in is in the middle of nowhere about two miles out of town, a small wooded area on one side and corn fields on the others. I have to use a GODD***ED dial up connection for the internet.
I have been all over the US and there is seriously, just something about me. In small towns normal people walk right up to me and say something to let me know I am creepy, or stand in shock looking horrified. In these small towns the nut jobs wait till I am alone then approach me and tell me the sick s*** they are into and too affraid to tell anyone else, as if they had just met a kindred soul. Sick F***s. In large cities people give me a wide birth and if its crowded they pass fast. The nut jobs in large cities like Chicago, or D.C. will risk getting close and mumbling shit hoping no one else hears them.
I get a lot of drug offers in large cities and requests in small towns. I don’t do drugs and don’t give a s*** if others do as long as they don’t get me arrested. Hell if you want to light up next to me thats fine just don’t pin a damn thing on me if a cop shows up, or I will ….
Really though, none of it makes since to me. I am short. Have a nose like a drunken irishman, or clown. I have a bit of a pot belly. I have a massive forehead. All this says likeable innocent little stuffed animal. At least to me, others see something wrong. I HATE WHEN PEOPLE ACT AFFRAID OF ME FOR NO REASON! God that p***es me off.
The most common word I hear used to describe me is creepy. I never get called sexy, Cute at best. Its all so annoying.
I need to go trout fishin. They don’t give a F***! what I look like. They just care what bait or lure I use.
Small towns don’t particularly suit me either. So I understand a bit there. And I am not claiming to know you or know your life, but, some of your problems with others might be found in how you look at yourself. You might want to think about re-framing your self image. It’s easier said than done, but it does work.
That having been said- how is this even vaguely on topic?
yeah I have a problem getting off of topic. It comes with the whole just saying whatever pops into my head thing. I also tend to write oprah for president on my homework just for giggles. One teacher….oh god I am getting off of topic again… I need absinthe to stay focused.
Don’t forget the Cadillac with the bouncy wheels too.
My fellow brothers in arms and other military members piss me off here in Okinawa to the point that I avoid all of them including my co workers during all ours f the day. I even asked specifically when looking for off base housing to find a place where there is little to no military members around. Damn I am really popular in my unit, but seriously tired of hearing the stupid crap that comes out of these guys mouths 80% of the time.
Dude: Been there, done that. I was on the rock for 6 months in 2000 and aside from one or two exceptions, it was embarrassing being with the group of guys off base. I remember actually LIKING Okinawa. The island was amazing, the training was busy and intense and there was less sweating of the small stuff. I was a clear minority though. Most guys in my unit absolutely hated it. I could never figure that out. We were being paid to live 30 seconds from an amazing beach and ocean and just workout and learn how better to shoot and blow things up. On top of that, I found the Okinawan people to be very kind and outgoing, at least the ones I dealt with.
But I agree. Not just the fellas either but the command and how they frame the locals and the island that really drives the opinions of the uninformed.
yeah basically, i have turned into the unit tour guide for the new guys,
true 90% of the guys in my unit hate it here, but its basically their own fault they either locked themselves up in the barracks every day and did nothing and did nothing to learn the language or culture and they also complain about not getting women when they hang out at all the military bars which are sausage parties.
the thing that made me different from all the other troops is that i lived in japan for a while on my own in Tokyo back when i was 18 and knew some of the language before i got here. i immediately got off the plane and set foot off base and interacted with the locals. got to my unit every one though i was too “cocky” for a new guy most of the the people with 1 or 2 years of the island hated my ass upon arrival due to one not being nervous at all and two being able to pick up a Japanese girl with in the first few hours i was here so i got lots of hate and envy from people who felt that they “deserved” to have a Japanese girl more than that fresh off the plane new guy, a lot of these guys couldn’t pick up a Japanese hooker with a 100$ bill stuck in their zipper and they basically remained celibate their 2 years here. as well as hanging out with them is a real drag especially from the guys that feel Okinawa and Japan should be how they want and do things how they want it
damn, i can understand you are home sick and never left your home town until you joined the military but damn you are in a foreign country in the other side of the damn world, man the fuck up and try to enjoy the surroundings and the people.
Yeah and try respecting those surroundings and people a bit. The Okinawans get shit on by everyone. The US Government, the Japanese Government. It’s the poorest region of Japan and nobody outside of Okinawa really cares at all.
yeah that is true.
i sometimes ask the Okinawan personnel about what they really think about the military here in Okinawa around the smoking areas when i go out to get my tobacco fix , I tell them its alright i wont get offended i think most of us military members are to retarded and problematic, they usually respond along the lines as us being a necessary evil for Okinawa since the military does pump money into their local economy, but our people violating laws or plain acting like retards or fighting with people does not really help our case. the only thing i can do is tell teach the new guys some phrases and teach em some customs and etiquette etc. just doing my small part to make Okinawa better for both parties
I know some Okinawans who would argue with that. However, obviously the people working on the base or working with the US forces depend on them for the lively hood. Hey man, glad you are trying to change things for the better. A rarity over there.
White people, really am I the only one that sees the problem? Maybe I am. Hopefully this will change that.
Lets talk about highschool for a second. Trust me, it will bring us to the beginning. See this highschool story is about mud.
In highschool the J.C.s club had this crazy thing they were preaching. That there are these MUD RACES destined to be lazy, stupid, and violent. These MUD RACES are supposed to be naturally sinful. They said mud is brown. So they were trying to push this MUD RACES thing to cover a large portion of the world’s population. Including the people in the holy land. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, they had this insane Idea that Jesus was white. Try and figure that one out; even early Jews were more brown than white.
Well I lived on a gravel road in highschool. I thought this mud races thing was pure insanity. That was, until I noticed the mud on the gravel road. See when it rains and that gravel road gets wet you get WHITE mud. WHITE mud occurs all over the world. It isn’t that strange.
So we get to the beginning. God made the white people white because THEY are the mud race, along with other white races like vikings. Yeah viking weren’t like what you think, the movies get them totally wrong, but thats another blog altogether.
So the main mud race WHITE PEOPLE! is mostly limited to small islands with shit weather, but not any real extremes (unless your talking bout those crazy loveable vikings). They don’t handle being cooped up on these islands well and start inbreeding like crazy, because they are too lazy to walk over to the next poorly built shelter. Years of inbreeding leads to some interesting things.
See white people have a higher rate of mental insanity and birth defects. So these angry, insane, deformed, adapted to nothing, inbreds start doing what they do best. STEAL, STEAL LIKE ITS THEIR VERY NATURE! Forget creating things, or making peace, or trading. They hit the seas and land bridges and whatever and punch and kick and gnaw till they have stolen some weapons. Then they take to looting, raping, and everything else that makes up all the evils of mankind.
They conquer to make more war. They push evil, depressing religions. They really set all of mankind behind a bit. It isn’t all bad though. At some point they find Jesus….oh wait they screw that up to.
Yeah early christians were so serious about being nice and spreading peace, you know turn the other cheek stuff, that they just sort of stood there and let the lions eat them in the arena. Hey death meant heaven. Well that’s just not the whites style.
Now christianity is a white thing, with Jesus re written as white and everyone is being held at sword point and told to worship. At this point they start blaming illness on demons and amputating limbs and bleeding with leeches. The Arabs are looking at this with all of their science and math and advanced medicine and saying “These guys are nuts.
The Arabs eventually find religion and stop being advanced, but the whites keep doing their thing and trying to convince people they are the top race. Wait what? Yep, see white people can dish it out but they hate taking their own medicine. So whites are setting themselves up as top of the evolutionary ladder everywhere. THAT IS SO INSANE AS THEY HAVE NO ADAPTATIONS TO ANYTHING JUST BAD GENES, DISEASE, AND INSANITY THANKS TO ALL THAT INBREEDING!
Eskimos are adapted to eat a diet so rich in whale blubber that it would kill anyone else. Acorns are a bit poisonous unless your native american. Most races can spend a day in the sun without turning red and being in constant pain!
THIS IS EVOLUTION! ADAPTATION! IT IS DARWIN! THESE ARE SUPERIOR QUALITIES! To the whites it means these races are savages meant to live in the wild. So what do these white races really have that makes them so F’N superior? Nothing. Hell, they are loaded with problems that prove the opposite.
Most major intelligent ideas are made by other races, WHITE PEOPLE STEAL THE CREDIT! The few ideas white people have that would qualify as intelligent are due to a mixing of races and some evolved, non-white, genes. Mix any race other than white, and you get an adaptation of good qualities. MIX WHITE AND YOU GET STUFF LIKE SICLE CELL! It has nothing to do with the black man, ITS THOSE DAMN DEFECTIVE WHITE GENES!
Jesus was brown, face it. Scientist studying genes and human evolution say that, most likely, Adam and Eve were black. Maybe Kane was white.
White people take forever to learn a language. Take ebonics for example. Really look at it. What does it sound like? Heavy, dumbed down southern accent. Where does it come from? Well at first some rich white republicans were saying it was the language of the black people on the streets. They made it sound like all black people who learn english speak like that at first. Then when the dumber bleeding heart liberal democrats shed a tear and said those poor misfortunates, suddenly schools are pushing ebonics as a second language in major cities.
THAT IS ALL SO INSANE AND HOW THE HELL DOES ANYONE FALL FOR THAT SHIT!?! Look at any other country. Ebonics is an American disease pure and simple. Now radio and television have been around forever and so has film. There is documented proof of early black performers being told how to talk if they wanted to be on T.V. One famous example is of a pianist being forced to pronounce piano as PIE ANN UH. He actually had to practice it and found it humiliating.
So go back and take a closer look at early slave trade. The slaves being taken from africa by the british and brought to America to be sold. Those guys, they heard English closer to its source. Often many southern farmers in America were insulted at how well these slave spoke English and thought that the slaves were trying to sound smarter than them. Birth of ebonics. Slave masters beating them cause they sounded smarter. Slave traders saying don’t talk like us or you will not sell well, then a whip and a lesson in how to sound southern. Early films and books are filled with how the slaves had to talk around the white man.
EBONICS IS A DUMBED DOWN ENGLISH THAT SOUNDS SOUTHERN BECAUSE ITS THE WAY THOSE SLAVE MASTERS TALKED! Then put rich white southern people in key places like the media and suddenly lots of black people are dumbing things down. It is so obvious. There is plenty of literature on this and some rather good documentaries.
Saul Williams and Aaron Mcgruder fight the ebonics mess all the time and the rap/gangster culture sold to so many. Look at the gangster look….pants down low so your legs look shorter, hunched over, arms made to look longer and down in front of you…. It is a cookie cutter image of what racist white want to portray black people as… ape like. It is pushed by rich white executives in T.V. and at Record labels.
With time and the developement of medical and psychological science white racists start falsifying data to portray minorities as having more natural birth defects and mental insanities. When you get down to it, whites raised in the same conditions as those forced on minorities have a much higher rate of defects. MULLETS! WHITE TRASH! TRAILER PARKS!
Also whites have more serial killers than any other race because we really have a higher rate of mental insanity, especially dangerous mental insanities. Look at the standard profile of a serial killer….the first word in it is WHITE! This really could go on forever.
White people have the worst diet. They can’t dance. White people have horrible rhythm. They steal everything. They always try to act superior. WHITE WOMEN ARE NUTS! on and on.
Think about the fights you got into as a kid in school. I had Japanese, white, Mexican, Native American, Black, India (cause i I say Indian its like saying Native american…F’n you get it) and whatever else. Tons of variety of race in the grade schools I went to. Not one fight with anyone other than white kids. The bully’s always white. The group of kids runnin around picking on people, always white. Other races would at most laugh at you to be mean and that’s it. White kids were just evil.
What do white governments do, WHITE STUFF! First a white run government tries to act like it is the greatest thing ever. Then they brainwash their citizens to think that their country is the greatest. Other governments just want you obedient. Whites have this inferiority complex. Then white governments set up all these horrible governments like Iraq to make themselves look better and manipulate and bully someone else. When they get bored they overthrow the government they set up and all in the name of spreading their greatness, I mean freedom. Never mind that they are still pulling the same crap they did before with that same area.
White people age horribly and have horrible health. Blue eyes give me the creeps. If white is so superior how come the most common blood type can be traced back to Genghis Khan and not some white guy? Oh and Mongols were so superior to white that white people had to use the term Mongoloid to mean visibly retarded….wow what an inferiority complex white people have.
White languages always connect their words to make non-whites suffer. Mongoloid…yeah. Black okay black it’s just a color. To me its tranquil. What does white society use the term Black for….a race that is far superior that they want to belittle and evil, darkness, everything bad really. This use of the word and the connections it causes on a subliminal level are not an accident. White people do this kind of evil crap to perpetuate their completely backwards idea that they are somehow superior when every bit of evidence is to the contrary.
When I am in a big city it is the white people who are always rude and causing trouble. The so-called minorities are generally nice and friendly and helpful. Everything a superior culture that has advanced would be expected to be. Culture….everyone but whites has it and celebrates it and has reason to do so. Culture helps pass on knowledge and a sense of belonging and so on. Culture is a good thing. It creates unity. Most cultures are more than glad to share their culture and celebrate others.
White hate culture. They suppress it. They whine about it. White culture is materialistic, murderous and oppressive if it exists.
White people spread destruction and decay. Look what they did to the native Americans. his peace-loving people who lived happy and healthy and in tune with nature and still had some good ass kicking capability. Whites lied, cheated, and murdered them. They said god made them white and thus superior so their destiny was to take everything and it all should be theirs anyway. Greedy pride filled bastards. They used religion and skin color as a way to claim everything and what the hell…destiny? God wanted them to go murder crazy and steal everything so they could get into heaven? huh WTF?
I took a class at my college that is supposed to be for law or law enforcement student called “foreign and domestic terrorism”. Hey it sounded interesting. Well guess what… The biggest threat to America isn’t brown people, it is – crazy white domestic terrorism. Yeah hows that for insane?
Well getting tired. Maybe I will add to this later. It has me so angry I am about to have an aneurism so I better catch some sleep. BEWARE THE WHITE MENACE!
oh yeah white people are ugly, smelly, stupid, unhealthy, and a bunch of other bad stuff I can’t think of right now.
Finally! The rant! But…Islands? No extremes? Um….Russia??? Fairly certain they are really white.
yeah Russia. Russia is either a hole in my logic, or is covered by the land bridge/ocean migration to do generally evil white people stuff. White devils.
Russia is interesting to me because there was this two or three year period starting in like 98 or 2000 where this gigantic upsurge in cannabalism started. http://www.Mayhem.net reported on it. I used to follow that site. It is a site or was a site devoted to serial killers and mass murderers.
Maybe I didn’t go far enough. I do feel a lot more severe that what I typed in my irrational hatred of whites and I am mostly white. Eh…meh…Finals may have taken the bite outta me…or maybe I am just losin my bark. The blog I did has a lot of examples of racism I have had to deal with growing up, whites being racist.
Didn’t mention Nazis as almost all internet arguments degenerate to someone yelling nazi about something. Didn’t mention KKK because I would of went off on some side thing about my favorite KKK leader that wasn’t really a believer in the KKK’s agenda and had a sexual deviance that mixed S&M with cannibalism and he was one of the first major blows that led to the KKK’s downfall.
Speaking of Klan I hope I remember to add the funny family reunion story, involving the word Klan, to my blog at some point. I pushed the island issue far enough that it may lead some to thing I am targeting the British, but if you look close enough I hit America harder and point out that at least the British use our language better than most whites. God English, there is language that is overly complicated for no good reason and came about through needless conquering and rape, and of course a lot of good ol criminal white behavior, what with all the words being borrowed from others, you unoriginal white F***S!
Maybe if i get a bit of my bark back, I will add something decent to the rant in the future.
Finally Potzo! I want some proof about the birth defects and have you ever looked into Japanese psychopaths?
The birth defects thing is from a lot of different sources. Personal observation being one. I grew up with a lot of T.V. and watched a lot of NOVA specials, PBS (public broadcasting system), IPTV (Iowa Public Television), The Learning Channel, Discovery Channel, History channel, National geographic special (YAY THEY HAVE THEIR OWN CHANNEL NOW TOO!). Read a lot of National Geographic too. Have seen so many scientific shows on so many things its hard to recall where half of this stuff I remember, or believe even comes from. Around middleschool I began reading stuff on psychology and sociology, got into reading some nursing manuals then too (man the right ones have actual pictures of very gory, very real accidents), and about a year or two after middleschool age I began reading college level books on sociology and psychology. Boyscouts introduced me to a lot of handicapt people, and I went all the way to eagle scout (god it is so wrong attaching that to this racist rant). Both sides of my family are huge so I got to go to a lot of retirement homes and spent a lot of time at those. Then there is the weird crap I am always looking up on the net. The studying of circus freaks (Mostly white), one website I used to frequent http://www.rotten.com has a pickled punk section (I am not sure why, but I always ,like a racist, assume those things are white). If you don’t know what a pickled punk is, don’t ask, creeeeeeeepy. Then there is the work of my favorite photographer, Joel-Peter Witkin, which features a lot of dead things that had deformities in life, that are displayed artistically in death (he was white too). Don’t get that fine photographer mixed up with the son of the same name that he had. His son is just a general perv who did some nude pics that aren’t really worth the time it takes to find. Consumptionjunction.com used to have a lot of deformed stuff posted, before it went mostly porn (as did steakandcheese.com and stileproject.com). Which makes me wonder why all these good gore and deformity picture and video sites always degenerate to cheap porn sites with time? Thank God Rotten, or Mayhem never did. Thats another thing, most races have normal porn, white has gonzo, snuffporn, splatterporn and a million other deviant things. A high prevaliance of sexual deviancy with whites. Now I have no proof of, nor have I ever seen any, but I think whites have more child molesters too. The only fitting punishment for one of those is to be tortured to death in the worst way known to a society at the time. Also any record of their existence should be destroyed.
As for Japanese Psychopaths yep, looked into that and their sociopaths. Some really interesting people before you even get to the ones that have murdered. The psychology behind it gets very interesting. Japanese psychology in general is especially interesting to me. The ways that some extremes of a nature along those lines gets ignored, or swept under the rug in Japan. Cases of Japanese murderers that commited their crime over seas and then got safe haven back in Japan never to be punished. Some really unique and interesting cases. A lot of good studies in individual vs group mentality and the resulting problems. Good microcosm and macrocosm stuff. Hikiko-Mori certainly arent the harmless Emos they are depicted to be. Otaku killers, or even just the Otaku deviant lifestyles are interesting too. Cases of canabalism during WWII and what went on with that on the asian shores near Japan, involving Japanese soldiers and a later order that eating other Japanese soldiers would get a death penalty, but non- Japanese were okay for the menu (yay history channel, too bad its often wrong on about the same scale as the internet, hell back to back shows that contradict each other happen all the time on it). Yeah I realise Japan has its share of, fun-to-study, nutcases.
I’m not trying to prove points now or disprove etc, but first- Japan is a small, largely sequestered island, largely “homo-genius” and based on it’s track record extremely violent and imperialistic.
In addition to that, the entire traditional culture regarding how children were raised and how people viewed sex and all that, it leans toward a significant amount of subtle inbreeding.
For every dis-likable quality you have mentioned in regards to “whites” the Japanese, on some level, share an equally unlikable trait.
Most peoples do. That’s my point. I only used Japan due to your own proclivities.
But, since you are you know, surrounded by a group that obviously really annoys you stuck in a situation you seem to be unhappy with- it makes since that your rant would be forefront in your mind at this time.
And it was worth the wait!
WHOO HOO I must be getting some of my writing talent back. Thanks for the encouragement everyone. It came at a good time too.
See after I got done posting on here I tried to go to sleep and ended up rolling around on the floor in the fetal position for awhile. It happens from time to time and I blame gas.
Well usually it stops after three hours so I kept trying to wait it out. After three hours I was stealing my dads hydrocodone. Only to learn that I have built up too much of a tolerance for it to do S***! I forced myself to vomit and everything else I could think of.
When I made it to college, many hours later, I fell outta the car and begged someone for help where I lay. The ambulance ride sucked and I got dropped and hit my head a lot.
Turns out my Gallbladder is full (like packed) with tiny Gall stones. I got to have a doctors hand up my butt using me like a pupet. Stabbed full of needles and reunited with an old friend.
Morphine my old love. Yeah turns out that Morphine doesn’t do anything for me anymore. Guess the excitement is out of that relationship.
I don’t have insurance so after some time I got up and walked out of the emergency room. Hell they weren’t givin me anything that worked and they were just gonna tell me to get my Gallbladder removed.
They prescribed me hydrocodone on the way out. Might as well have given me tic tacs. Still I feel almost good.
The pain has stopped for now. Many hours later. I managed to get someone to print my assignments and turn them in to my Literature class. I also got them to print my latest letter to my pen pal and mail it presents and all.
Also I got all of these encouraging comments. Thanks everyone. Wow I am so off topic. My head doesn’t really hurt from being dropped, but I have a fat lip. Still I came out okay and learned that this Gallbladder thing isn’t gonna kill me just hurt a lot. I can also use the pain as an excuse to not eat and lose some damn weight. Maybe after college I can get this thing cut out of me.
Bloody hell Potzo…you sound like DARK MAN. Take it easy. But the rant was good. May I ask by the way, what sort of presents are you sending this pen pal?
Well I have sent her candy, clothes (lots of clothes and she always says they are Kawaii), pictures of iowa, pictures of me, maps of iowa, brochures of stuff in iowa, a mickey mouse metal keychain, a plush rose (you know those stuffed animal lookin fake rose things), and I am going to send her a DVD of this truly beautiful movie called Baraka at some point (just gotta get it in a region coding that works on Japanese DVD players.
I have sent her email links to plenty of asian/iowa stuff. Like about asian communities in iowa, holidays, events, art galleries, restaurants, grocery stores, and other stuff.
Theres actually an ajinimoto plant (as in factory) near the town I live in. Not sure why I mentioned that.
Also I found these two rings I want to send her. One says “I made a wish and you came true” The other is a quote from Ghandi that says “where ever you are you are always in my heart” But I am too affraid to ask her ring size. They would just be presents and asking a womans ring size implies things.
why do you ask?
Just curious. Has she sent you anything?
Yes. She has sent me Japanese cookies, A lemon cupcake, a pirates of the caribean notepad, a map to where she lives, a folding fan, a samurai calendar (well its a sumi-e art calendar, but it has two samurai pictures so I call it a samurai calendar), some postcards of sumi-e art, pictures of horses her boss raises, pictures of her house, and she always does her best to pick a nice rice paper with a sumi-e style art on it for the letters, and carefully tries to pick out stamps I will like, and she sends me movie pamplets/leaflets all the time because she knows I love those.
Sometimes we email each other back and forth talking about how the moon looks. She draws lots of little hearts and such when she writes to me. Her emails generally include cute little emotes. One time when she was sick and working overtime she actually asked the boss for company paper and wrote to me while on the job.
Is this a good sign?, or am I being an overly opptomistic idiot?
The birth defects thing I think applies equally across the spectrum. I translate some medical things occasionally for my job and have come across a few examples where a particular race is more affected due to it being congenital. Not a very good example of a deformity but one nonetheless
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_spot
I have come across a few like this, sometimes Caucasians get it the worst, but in other instances it happens more frequently to other races. You’ve just gotta take the crunchy with the smooth when it comes to your ethnicity I suppose?
There are also a lot of conditions based on more societal factors such as beriberi disease (vitamin B deficiency) and scurvy, or a more modern comparison would be heart disease and stomach cancer, which is quite high in Japan. (I imagine due to lack of fibre in the diet)
Also, I reckon the Japanese nick more words too. A lot of their words are from Chinese, probably a similar ratio to English words that came from Latin etc., but now you see perfectly good Japanese words being replaced with English ones for no good reason other than verbal masturbation: a good example is kisha meaning journalist; however everyone uses jyanarisuto now. These words go in and out of fashion and are more to show off rather than to fill any linguistic hole or something like that. They mainly come from whatever country Japan gets all its shit from, so there are a lot of English words (America), with a few German ones from back in the fascist days and even a couple from french. (For some reason the word course (kousu) is used in most instances, expect for courses of chemotherapy etc., where kuuru is used(cours) from French) The meaning gets twisted around and distorted thanks to a top down Confucionist system (I suppose) that basically means that when someone is told a random word by their boss or similar; or even by a peer, rather than say, “Stop talking jibberish,” or even, “What does that mean?” they will pretend to understand and go with their own self-interpreted definition of the word, based on myriad pop sources, mainly TV and advertising. This eventually makes the word even more cryptic and harder to understand than the old word that was used. This is basically in a nutshell, the Japanese way of internationalisation’, which ironally makes things more inward.
Anyway Potzo, keep studying. I think you could release a series where you can rant about all races. You have some ranting talent.
I enjoyed the Potzo rant.
I really liked this comment too. Decent. Very Decent.
Thanks GJA. Potzo, also regarding the paedo theory, I would recommend you watch a documentary up on the VICE website about Afghanistan, in which they interview a group of about 5 men sitting in a circle who are smoking pot and very very open about how they go after boys in adverse situations and take advantage of them, the same as a few high school boys talking about going to the disco or whatever and trying to pick up.
I heard a story, while on “vacation” in Shinagawa from a Filipino fellow. He said, and this is sort of actually on topic for this post, that in Saudi Arabia, without LARGE economic assets at your disposal, it’s nearly impossible to get married. So, many of the middle class or under class men hook up with dudes. Foreign dudes are the preferred choice. Allegedly, that’s why he got his tattoo. Tattoo’s are considered a mark of someone dangerous, so he got a big one on his arm to ward off would be butt pirates. True? False? I don’t know, but he believed it totally.
Wasn’t there an article recently about a Saudi soccer player getting 70 something lashes for a friendly grope of his teammates nuts after a goal which was unfortunately caught on camera?
It sounds like a pretty elaborate story, you could always go there and check it out? Don’t forget your re-entry visa though, or it’ll be back on vacation for nothing in particular again.
NB: decided to search for it on the internet and it was actually Iran, not Saudi. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/11/iran-soccer-stars-face-public-lashing-after-celebratory-butt-grope/ Does that make me racist for grouping all Arab countries into one big arse groping whipped basket?
Hmmm….Perhaps it does. But I wouldn’t worry about it too much. That’s what this post is about.
And I frankly have no desire to visit the middle east anymore. I did at one point but not now. One too many people I have known passed there so that particular part of the world can kiss my ass for the present moment. Nothing against the people from there if I meet them else where, it’s more the land itself I have an illogical grudge with.
Some family were in Qatar for a number of years for work and from what they have told me, it doesn’t sound like a very pleasant place. Basically there is a tiered society based on race, the Qataris do nothing and get free money and tax free income from the King’s oil bounty, the underclass of Indians, Filipinos, Malaysians, etc. fuel the construction industry and line some rich guy’s pockets while they have their passports taken from them and are exploited and the westerners man the information industries for a relatively good wage and exist in their own ex-pat world, getting drunk at each other’s houses because being drunk on the street can get you arrested.
The roads are worse than Eastern Europe, with anything smaller than a Landcruiser being hazardous to your safety and the law enforcement is strongly in favour of the locals, meaning that a mere argument over a car space can land you in jail, so you have to basically take the abuse on the chin from the locals. The locals have so much money and import everything and do nothing themselves, so they are basically useless. When the oil runs out, I reckon they are basically fucked.
This is what I’ve heard and they were on bloody good wages with about 7 weeks holidays a year, yet they couldn’t wait to get out of there. Not to mention no pork or public bars, so the most fun you could have is go down a dune in your 4WD or go to some ridiculous indoor ski slope or imitation of Venice which is way tackier than any shitty sky tree times a billion.
No thanks. I will pass on that.I had a friend that did a year long security gig there. 80,000USD and he totally hated it.
Potzo, I don’t think you’re being unrealistic, she sounds like a sweet girl. Have you exchanged photographs?
I think if anything, if it manifests into some sort of real relationship to take care to be extra-sensitive, as the way she approaches things like relationship and love and also her reasons for being attracted to you may be different to an American woman. If you are really serious about it, it might be best to read into things online or through books, while taking care to sift through the negativity that comes from some ex-pats.
I would suggest not mentioning anything about drugs, legal or otherwise other than being taken as directed per your prescription. It’s ok to like a good drink here and there though.
Maybe GJA is more experienced in this though.
Good luck! I hope it works out for you.
She won’t send me a photo just yet as she is affraid that I will not like the way she looks. She liked my photos though. I told her no rush on the photos and that a photo isn’t going to change the way I feel about her; I also told her to wait and send it when she feels like it.
I have already been getting books and going to websites about dating Japanese women and cultural differences. Even looked at some stuff about being married to a Japanese woman. Paying closer atention to what I read of people who have been in these kind of relationships.
She tells me about her family, and asks me about mine. Really everything I have read in the books and online makes it look like it is going well. I just do not know what to send to move things a long. I don’t know what kind of presents might help things get more serious. All the books and websites say exspensive jewelry.
She knows that I am married and going through a divorce. She knows I live in my parent’s basement (she knew me before that and wasn’t put off by me losing my house, she was really just concerned about me and provided encouraging words). Really she knows all the bad stuff except about my parents and me. Like the entire abusive history there… trying to ease into that subject. Anyway she is okay with all my faults which is awesome.
She is 3 months older than me. She asked me my birthday first. I have tried to be as sensetive as possible, it causes her to call me delicate, but not in any negative way. She actually seems to enjoy calming me down and always knows when I am panicked or what ever, and in those situations she always knows exactly what to say. When she saw my photos she said that I look very daring yet am so delecate when she talks to me. She said that she thinks she will be much the same. I am not sure if she means when I finally see a photo of her or if she is thinking of us possibly meeting someday.
She once, while emailing back and forth rather fast all day and night, made a joke about something that would mean she is attracted to me and relaxed in talking to me. Don’t really want to type it as it was probably personal too her. She has also once shared some personal information with me that she seemed to have trouble saying. I handled it well.
The only time we ever disagree is when I praise her too much. She always gets over it very fast though. It doesn’t seem to make her angry as I thought at first. It is more, as she explained the last time, that she doesn’t want me getting the idea that she is some perfect woman and then hurting myself. I explained, in a very long email, the last time why I said those words of praise, that had caused the problem, and she then relaxed and seemed okay with it all. If anything she was very happy.
I have been writing her for well over a year now. Out of all the pen pals I have had she has had the least problems with cultural differences and miss translations. Most snap when something is miss translated. She remains calm and figures it out, and isn’t affraid to clarify it with me. This is a breath of fresh air as the others would generally go straight to angry reactions.
She used to spend hours, days at times, translating my emails and letters. Eventually she got a computer program for when we talk back and forth through email. Her English is noticeably worse when she uses the program, but EngRish is a turn on for me so thats been awesome. The differences aren’t as bad as most people trying to learn English though, even with that computer program. I love when asians use R in place of L, even with the pc program she doesn’t do that one, but hey she gets other words mixed up and I can understand what she means easily, so I get the fun and understand whats being said at the same time. It is almost scary how easily she is picking up English, although she said she is using the pc program more often, recently, as she has been busy lately.
I eventually quit even trying to have any other Japanese pen pals as she is just so awesome. I have considered making some pen pals just to get advice, but haven’t done that yet. I even read websites where people ask for dating advice for this kind of thing and get answers from real couples that are a Japanese/Gaijin mix.
As with the other pen pals I sought her out as a pen pal only. With time I just kind of fell for her. The more I learn about her the more I like her. She seems a good match for me, and that is even after I look at things realistically and try to figure out what things would get anoying with time. Also I try not to do anything phonny that people usually do at first in a relationship, the kind of things that people do to win someone over and then stop doing once they get serious; because to me that is just asking for things to fall apart.
Hmmm…well for starters, the Japanese don’t substitute R for L. It’s the other way around. Most of them have trouble making the “R” sound but L and it’s complexities are part of their matrix.
I’m frankly surprised she hasn’t sent you any photos. Has she traveled abroad? If so, ask to see photos of that, you might get one of her next to a pyramid or something. Riding a Camel. Who knows.
J-guys tend not to flatter. So when we do it, it almost just seems insincere to Japanese women. Roll that back and give her compliments in a more subtle way. She will likely take those more to heart.
Finally I can only say- Dude….do not but this woman expensive jewelry. Do not. Save the money. It would be better spent buying her a plane ticket or buying yourself one.
About the L vs R thing…Herro. Don’t need to mention personal experience just use the word you yourself used in a blog. Thats my douche bag move for the month…yeah, I try to time them to about once a month like PMS. Although that was a spoken moment (herro), so would need to go into personal experience to prove written and really its all useless as we haven’t met the same people and been to the same areas…really the Japanese I have met have been here in the U.S. I was just being a douche with that comment.
She has not mentioned traveling abroad. Thats a good idea. I once tried getting her to send me pictures when she was going to the beach with friends. She sent me pictures of the beach with no one in them. Knowing my luck I am pen paling a dude…its never the good kind of weird, my life.
Not that a male pen pal would be bad. Just that this is supposed to be a female and my luck is that bad. It is also that weird, my life.
Really though I have no reason to think she is anything other than what she presents. Her house was even devoid of guy things. If it were anyone other than me in this situation I would be one hundred percent sure it was totally lagit. God I hate my life, I really do.
Yeah the flattery thing, well she is totally cool with it now. She understands after that email, and now seems to appreciate it. Still, I will cut back anyway, as I trust your advice. Who better to take advice from than random internet people, just kidding, I have read enough of your blogs and talked to you through comments enough that I do really trust your advice.
Was not planning on actually buying her exspensive jewelry till I had seen her in person and things were a lot more serious. The two rings that I want to get for her are not that exspensive. Yeah, I wish it was to the plane ticket point already, but I am certainly not going to rush her and mess this up. If I can find ways to speed things along and make them more serious, without ruining it, then I am totally gonna try.
Don’t know what to get besides clothes. Cant keep sending clothes forever. Her house is f’n tiny. Don’t want to send candy all the time and make her fat and give her a heart condition. God if I actually set foot on Japanese soil I would probably have a heart attack on the spot.
I am in a really good mood and super apologetic. WHAT THE FUCK ARE IN THESE STUPDI ANTIBIO PILLS!? I will be glad when I am done with these things. The good mood ain’t bad, but the rest is some major weirdness. Oh saw “rum diary”, A MAZE NG!
Potzo, not trying to be a prick here, but what happens if she is 180kgs and only has one tooth?
Good luck with it all anyway. It would be nice if something came out of it.
Do not worry at all. You’re not being a prick Mo. Really, in a way, you’re looking out for me with that comment. Its only logical and such.
Yeah I don’t know Kgs so I am guessing 180 is a lot. The average weights of Japanese women, who consider themselves fat, on one of my Pen pal sites is 100lbs. … The average fat american women is well over 200lbs. (or is it 350+lbs now?)…therefore I think statistically chances (or is it odds) are in my favor. One tooth…ick, just …okay, I can handle teeth going all different directions, but lack of teeth, or rotting teeth is not acceptable.
Still I really like her as a person and in those situations I am sure that a person weighing 180kgs and having one tooth would be happier with surgery, and such, reducing the weight to something much less and a new set of teeth. If not well then I will have to face that if it happens and don’t know how things would go at this point. I would really want to keep her as a friend as we get along very well and she is great for me.
I am a magnet for the bad kind of weird. My life has events in it that are hard to believe if you don’t see them and then even it becomes hard to admit the memory is real over time. I also draw very weird people to me in everyday situations as if I were the weird people prophet (don’t want to say messiah as God already hates me and I don’t need to increase his hatred).
So, even though she has been a huge help to me, even though she is a reason to wake up every day, I have to be prepared for the worst. She could be a dude, or suddenly one day totally hate me. Yeah I really want this to work out. I need something good, positive, and happy in my life that doesn’t get all weird and bad for me. If she does turn out to be as she has presented herself then I am sure she will look at least normal as well. If all that works and I manage to get into a very serious relationship with her,…then everything that has ever happened will have been worth it; all regrets will be erased as they become stepping stones to what is then a happy life.
It seems even more far fetched than my dream of being a movie director of Samurai dramas, with a touch of romance, for the straight to video/dvd market in Japan. Me being happy, with someone who is happy, and who loves me for me, and is as perfect as my pen pal…
I… can’t jinx it. I will just say that I feel good about my life and have a reason too. Just maybe my life isn’t meant to be absolute crap from begining to end. The good deeds and good moments always get corrupted, or turn out to be lies, but it may have all been worth it… hopefully I shall see soon.
If not then there are plenty of fish in the sea. Bet your ass I would be devestated though; if things go wrong. Well Mo, thank you for the good luck comment, thats very cool of you to say and I appreciate it.
GJass, I have a question for you too, we were talking about the cliched conversations and how they get old earlier, what I wanted to ask was: have you and are you willing to put up with this from women in order to get with them, or can you do without it?
I am interested in Gaijin’s answer.
Hell in the spirit of this post what about women who have irational and against the grain of societies beliefs views (we are talking about views that clash with yours and rub you like sand paper)? I have had racist women that think whites are the best thing since sliced bread and are against any non-whites. Racism in women seems to be extra strong if the target of said racism, is also a woman. They were very open about their racism and it was a bit of a ethical/moral problem for me.
Oh, and don’t even get me started regarding sexual deviancy in Japan. Please, don’t get me started.
Haha yeah, Potzo you need to watch some more Japanese porn for your white case study. It makes most of the western porn out there seem pretty tame.
Interesting question.
First of all, and this is hard for me to say, currently I am not trying to “get with” any women. Perhaps for the first time in forever. My private life is complicated. I have my son, his mother and I are managing to remain amicable which is shocking but good. I recently lost the serious love interest in my life due to my own stupidity and that doesn’t seem to be getting better. So I am not looking for anyone now.
In the past- I have dealt with the dumb conversations, but mostly that was when I first arrived here, before they became too terribly moronic. I have also found that when you are out TRYING to pick up, you end up entangled in these silly cookie cutter chit chats more so than when you are out just having a good time with friends, and then just HAPPEN to attract the attention of some interesting women. In the latter circumstance, for some reason the dumb ass mouth leaks simply do not occur, and generally I have found that things are cool, interesting and fresh.
Won’t spend too much time trying to figure that out, but it’s been my observation.
At this point though, if a women approached me, she could be cute or whatever, and if she asked me “Where are you from?” I would answer and consider that strike one. “Can you use hashi?” would be strike two and “Why do you like Japan?” Would be strike three. I would then try not to be too horrible, about face and walk away. I wouldn’t be able to handle it at this point. Not at all.
Just to clarify!!!- Not everyone will ask you these lame questions. The good ones probably won’t. And I think the language you are speaking in, and both parties fluency in it might, MIGHT have an impact on this….
GJass, thanks for the honest comment. I like your three strikes policy, if they can pick up on the vibe after the first shitty question and stop, then I see no harm done. I was running on two strikes, but I will try and be more generous with the three. I think a poor attempt at an ice breaker is nothing to get too upset about. You know you’re in dangerous territory and it’s time to slap yourself in the face when you drop the three strikes.
I think what you say about trying and then just going with an opportunity usually works anywhere.
I have been told a few times that I speak Japanese too well for women to like me and that I should dumb it down a bit, due to being helpless appearing as cute and appealing to the Japanese woman’s motherly instinct. All I can help thinking when I am told things like that is having blue balls from when you have a kid until you die. No thanks. Also, last thing I wanna do is have sex with someone who mothers me, I can wipe my own arse, thank you. These were predominately people born in the earlier part of Showa, so I really hope that attitudes have changed somewhat. I was just hoping to meet someone and I thought they were pretty/ they thought of me as handsome and then chat and hang out for a bit and then go out if things are working out, but it’s a lot harder than it seems. When I first got here at this job a lot of girls were friendly but treated me like a dumbarse monkey, so I just smiled and walked away and don’t even get a hello anymore. Tried mentioning the idea of a Gokon in a conversation with some of the fellas here who are the same age as me and usually one dickhead says (we are conversing in Japanese and I reckon my ability is damn good), “Yeah, we could do a gokon in English, that would be so much fun!” Why is it illegal to kill people like this, or at least bludgeoning them?
Good luck and I hope things work out for you privately anyway.
My Japanese is by no means fluent, but I can discuss most anything I want to discuss outside of Brain surgery and Ancient Satan Worshiping Religions. So when I say things in Japanese, and the person gives me the brush off and say they don’t speak English, it is annoying. Then, I have to slow everything way down (not dispense dick strikes) and break through the dense, heavy wall of ignorance and let them see our communicative light.
And I know for a fact that my Japanese, my accent, can sound child like. Oh well whatever. It works both ways. I know I have been duped once or twice, falling for cuties speaking silly kiddy English only to be shocked and a bit turned off when I heard them in Japanese on the phone with their friends. She went from sounding like a little kitten who wanted milk to a drunk one legged Sea whore screaming at the black birds because they stole her glass eye. I have been told my “English Voice” is scary. That illustrates how ridiculous I must sound in Japanese. Despite the “Sugoi Nihongo umai ne!” BS comments when I say thank you for something or ask someone to pass the soy sauce.
There is a Japanese book that I would recommend reading called とりあえず日本語でもしも。。。あなたが外国人と「日本語で話す」としたら by 荒川洋平. It is available in the same section of Kinokuniya as the Japanese study books and examinations, etc. Anyway, it is written by a Japanese teacher who has been in the business for 20 years and the book presents a nice balanced perspective on how Japanese view non-native speakers. There is one chapter about what he calls the high hurdle phenomenon, which is the polar opposite to the child treatment phenomenon, where basically one is expected to speak infallible Japanese like a native and there is no consideration for the fact that it is the interlocutor’s second language, if there is a need for that, there is also the child treatment mode to go into.
Anyway, what you are talking about with the childish thing I think is an example of that and I imagine it is just subjective rubbish. Also, I think you have the definition of fluent wrong, when I studied in Australia we did a bit (education degree) about how second language speakers always under-rate themselves when it comes to expressing their language level. If you can chat about most things, that is fluent in my book. If we went by the definition of not being fluent as having one or many topics in which one cannot talk about, then you would find most native speakers would fall outside of that definition in regards to medical or any specialist conversation.
That book is quite an easy read and I can always post you the copy I have if you’re willing to return it when you’re done.
If it’s any consolation, when I went to Spain for a holiday a few years ago, my European friend’s friend told me that I spoke Spanish like a really out there camp homosexual. There goes 2 years of university study haha. At least no one said that about me when I tried speaking French.
Oh yeah and when whites get fat they think you should put up with it and baby them and be considerate of them and just generally put up with all the inconviences they cause. Hell even the non-fat ones are that way. Self centered pricks. Yeah it occurs in other races, but I have certainly met more humble fat people of other races. Like when a fat person is in the way and you can’t get around, if they are not white then they generally will apologize and try to find a way to let you past, if they are white they give you a dirty look, and pick a fight about it and try to stay in your way even longer. S*** once I was in the emergency room with someone and this fat white nurse tried three different pairs of latex gloves and they all ripped and she said fuck it and went without gloves and her fat hands kept dropping equipment and she was causing the person pain and ignoring their complaints, or at times saying they would just have to put up with it, and later the person had all the equipment that got dropped added to their E.R. bill by that damned hospital, but that could just be the stupid hospital itself; I think it was a cause of self centered fat white woman, mixed with a white ran hospital.
This could be the plot line for some wacky hospital comedy, I chuckled thinking about the fat ladies face screwing and trying to justify her clumsiness.
Thanks for your great articles. I’ve just recently started following. I live in Japan as well and as for you statement I would kind of agree but change it to:
“I honestly believe that MANY foreigners here, SOMETIMES even long-term ex-pats seem like they do not “get it”…most of the time, not all, but most of the time, JAPANESE PEOPLE SEE US not as assets, but liabilities.”
In truth “foreigners” are usually not actual liabilities here, even if they are ignorant or “don’t ‘get it’.” However, Japanese people often see us as a liability when it comes to interactions on “their terms.” It’s mostly because “foreigners” are assumed not to have tacit knowledge of Japan and even if you are fluent and know the social rules it is still often assumed that you, in the end, cannot live up to their social expectations.
By their very definition of “foreigner”, whether it be 外人 or 外国人, it’s difficult to be included in their circle and so therefore cannot partake in it as an individual and must treated as a guest of sorts. And with that presumed role comes the burden of being treated like a guest. I think there are quite a few foreigners here who “get it.” And that’s the point: if you get it you can either leave, ignore it, accept it and play along feigning ignorance, or confront it and try to push the Japanese threshold for social progress. Many ignore it or just play along cuz they don’t care. Those who confront it will probably end up leaving or being miserable.
Though, this dynamic depends of course on where you live (i.e. Tokyo versus rural Shikoku or something).
Thanks
Matt- Good comment.
I still hold my original position however.
Perhaps you know a very different group of foreigners than I do, and that’s totally possible. Based on my experience though, most do not “get it” at all. Even the ones that think they do, really don’t. In addition to that, “getting it” has little or nothing to do with being happy or sad here, successful or a failure.
Anyway- keep reading and comment when you have time and something either interesting or nasty to say.
Even the ones that think they do, really don’t.
GJA – Can you explain what you mean about this a little more? Maybe even an example?
I can try. I think in the Euro-American mind, everyone wants an answer to things. They want a decisive explanation. It’s similar to how the Japanese are regarding language. WE tend to be much more flexible about language than the Japanese do. Meaning, most of them are flabbergasted when I say there is really no one word for “Otsukaresama” or “Yoroshiku”. Not really a concise one word answer the contains all the things the Japanese words do. But culturally, it might sound like an oxymoron but I feel like the Japanese as a group are much more open to behaviors. Not open in the sense of allowing various different behaviors but open in the sense that even if they don’t understand them, it really isn’t such a big issue. Euro-Americans, and MOST of civilizations I’ve dealt with are not so relaxed. Particularly Americans seem to want ANSWERS and they adopted very narrow cultural definitions that they think cover Japanese behavior etc. But inevitably these are overly narrow and miss the point. OR they are overly complex and miss the point. Just in my experience, even intuitive, well read foreigners here tend to say things that might be ok, but in retrospect often feel very self centered and useless.
Thanks for the response.
OK, I’m pretty sure I get what you’re talking about. Very hard thing to put into words, but a lot of shoulds and have tos and so forth usually are said. Let’s try and make a term for it: Euro/anglo-centric anti-relativism?? You write more than me, so maybe you can come up with something better.
Personally I don’t think one has a right to self-righteously (different to contributing an opinion, while willing to take on your fellow interlocutor’s also) comment on a society until they can pick up a newspaper in the native language and be able to chat about that. Not many people can do that as far as I know. On the other hand, how you are treated as an individual is something one has a right to complain about no matter what, I think it is important to distinguish the two. Obviously the line can become blurred.
I think it goes both ways though. I used to assume that the more educated, the more enlightened, but some of the very educated people here (6 years or more at uni) are some of the most culturally retarded and arrogant fucks I have ever met. One guy who walks past all the time and casually smiles and says hi (I fuckin hate it, I’m not your mate and there is no reason to give me a special greeting because I look different cunt, I don’t want to be in your fucking special greetings club ok) nonchalantly said to me one day, “oh, I know that in America (I’m not American btw, wonder how we’d go calling you a Chinese/Korean, guy) how people call each other by their first names (I was having a chat with a colleague about titles, we had some bloody good chats, but I think I broke some unspoken rule and tried to press for his opinion about radioactive aid being sent abroad and we are having a silent tiff right now, could be permanent) so I know how hard it is for you foreigners.” Basically they get an idea in their head of their self-conceived benevolence and think they are better than everyone else and making an effort, when in fact they are a million times worse. I saw this in Sydney as well in some of the inner-city leftie parts(at least they tried though which is better than righties who want to put immigrants on a meat pie and VB IV drip), no one actually thinks to ask people what they want and treat them as individuals. The people who are the best are usually common folk who are nice and patient people and realise that you have to catch up on 25 years of schooling, language and other societal indoctrination and give you the time of day and treat you as a person.
Anyway, maybe I being one of these people by constantly linking things with personal experience. At least it helps me get through work when I am feeling under-appreciated.
To finally fit right in as part of the group and not in any way individual…omg…to be given a handbook and told you are one of us now and you even look normal so you have to do everything in this book exactly as it is written with no thoughts, or actions of your own. I would have an orgasm on the spot.
Watch THX1138. WATCH IT! My god that society is so amazing. All would be happy. In fact the main character is, till his chosen female messes with it.
Hello everyone. I’ve never been to Japan, but your conversation is quite interesting. It feels to me like being with good old friends. (Sorry for my English, I’m not a native speaker)
To potzo79: it might be a helpful reading for you (actually for everyone): Gut and Psychology Syndrome. Medinform Publishing, Camebridge, 2005
It’s not a spam,. read it or don’t.. all the best guys and girls (hm, any girls about here?)
Any girls about here? – good question. Actually this does seem to be much more of a gentleman’s club sort of thing we have going on. bit of a shame.
I’m a girl, I’m ‘about here’. I’m supposed to be doing things right now though so I’ll leave a proper reply later…
We are poised. We are waiting.
Girl here….though the term only applies in an anatomical sense. OK so here’s my rant. I am a racist against all those people that are so afraid of being called a racist that make it their goal in life to try and disprove the accusation before it even happens. I know it sounds weird but at least in this part of the world it is a regular occurrence. There two large groups of people here, the self proclaimed Patriots (!?)(a.k.a those that believe just because they happen to be born in the same land as Pericles they are automatically superior beings and the rest deserve the gas chamber) and the anti-racists. The second group is the one that gets on my nerves the most, some off them have reached the point of denying loving their birthplace so they wont get confused with the first. How in hell do you manage to not love the land you grew up and had your best experiences in life??? and thats not even the worst!! During these troubled times here there have been many a groups calling people to the massive strikes, one of those groups (that is anti-rasism and refuses to allow anyone closely resembling a Patriot in their otherwise democratic and open to all movement) issued a calling to all workers to strike. So far so good but here comes the best part. They decided to include next to the “underpaid-abused workers join us” motto the word immigrant turning it into “underpaid-abused and immigrant workers join us” so they will not get confused again with racists. And silly me felt like i had to point out that by using they word immigrant in the tittle they were excluding them from the underpaid workers making them into a different category. Needless to say i was accused of being a nazi! The human mind is a maze of intricate decisions and ideas but it the end it all comes back to bite you in the ass.
“At least in this part of the world…”
What part would that be?
Hahahah I’m from Knoxville TN (total shit hole guy was right), living in Beirut. But I think the palestinians are the biggest fucking drain on this planet and cause more conflict than any other group in history, and need to either give their lives trying to take the land that is rightfully theirs back, or assimilate with the rest of the mid-east and stop demanding on being sovereign in their camps (read apartment blocks) while still demanding the host nation provide them with everything. They are killing Lebanese soldiers every day over this
I’m a blunt person. I say blunt things. I generalize people even though I know that not EVERYONE of one particular group act or look like so-and-so.
Examples:
Indians eat curry.
Thai people have fewer taste buds than other people (now this is a fact because of all the spicy food they eat)
Europeans don’t bathe as much as Americans or use deoderant.. that’s what perfume is for
Japanese are racist, but they keep it to themselves, lol.. Everyone is racist, darling, but the Japanese are better at keeping it on the Down Low , yes?
Yeah I’m sure I’d offend people by making generalizations, but it’s such a hassle taking the time to explain , “yes I KNOW that not ALL people are like this, but work with me here!” God, political correctness is such a time waster.
I automatically think all foreign guys in Japan, especially white guys, are here to get a Japanese girlfriend.
Every time I bring a Japanese friend to an event she gets hit on by all my friends. I know some guys aren’t here for that but it seems like they don’t even care about friendship or foreign girls or Japanese guys, just make a beeline for the Japanese girls. I don’t get it!
I dunno Ro, but there doesn’t seem to be a huge selection of foreign women around these parts, although I live in the sticks. Any Japanese girl that has some interest in me of course I will go for and more enthusiastically than I would have in Sydney, simply because I am lonelier here than I was there. Honestly, I would love to meet a nice Aussie girl around here, but I think I have more chance of being promoted to the executive board of this company before that happens.
Executive Momotaro… I like the sound of that. You should make that happen, and then maybe you will make enough to import a nice Sydney gal. Dress the part first, time to buy a new suit.
They’re usually young (or appear young), thin, and sexy but more importantly when in Rome…
You are surprised that the men living here are interested in the indigenous female population?
Japan in 2012 is not Japan of “old”. This is not the bubble. For people to live here, there has to be something that really attracts them, and like the rest of the history of the world, one of those things is women. Japanese women are very cute to most of the men that live here, including the Japanese men and as my friend put it once ” they are professionals at being women “.
I know I have stayed here so long for a few reasons, one of which I still can’t put into words other than to call it a vibration or energy about Tokyo that I love, I also have real friends here and a history now, but sure, I am really attracted to the women here and I don’t think I need to apologize for that. Nor does anyone else.
That having been said, living one’s life simply to hook up with girls is ridiculous. Like all other things, balance is necessary in some form or another. Anything one commits to with complete abandon will destroy you irregardless of it being virtuous or not, and I have seen supposedly aware, mature and able good looking guys get emotionally eviscerated by a girl that they had intended to simply play with. I have actually been in these ranks myself.
In closing, sure, some guys are dicks and can’t hold a conversation for more than 10 minutes without trying to take someone home, and a lot of men here and everywhere validate themselves by sleeping with new women. A practice which is really unhealthy and will leave one feeling like a whore in the end. But in the end, Boys will be boys, and boys like girls (generally). And boys really like Japanese girls.
I get where Ro’s coming from. I’ve lived in Japan my entire life, and through the years I’ve found that it’s very rare to find a gaijin male whose top priority in living here isn’t to find a Japanese girlfriend and/or fuck buddy.
Wait, no, that’s a sweeping generalization. Let me rephrase: approximately 90% of my male gaijin acquaintances/friends are exclusively looking to get some Japanese ass, to the point of breaking up with their gaijin girlfriend because a Japanese girl batted their eyelashes at them. Not that I blame them, because- hello, fucking hot! But, it can be a little irritating.
By the way, gaijinass, new to the site and LOVE it. This thread in particular. It’s always so interesting to see Japan from another gaijin’s perspective.
Cheers. And hey, many a decision in history was likely made for some hot ass. Why should it be different for some kiwi on a working holiday?
Excuse me while I necro but I had to respond to this whole “asian fetish” thing because it’s pretty racist (I’ll get to that in a minute) and entirely bizarre in its hypocrisy. Additionally, White women need to shut up about it because it has nothing to do with them. So, why any white woman would be so offended by someone else’s fixation on a third party’s perceived beauty is well beyond me. Their need to influence, block or control it is even creepier.
The “Asian Fetish” is hypocrisy in that it’s a label we apply exclusively to men. Asian women who date nothing but White men aren’t creepy Asians with a White fetish. No, they have a “preference”.
It’s creepy when Asian-American/Asian women identify others as fetishists because they’re assessing others as irrationally fixated on their own beauty or on them in general. You don’t declare yourself someone else’s fantasy; that’s bizarre. And the notion that you could, at a glance, identify the sexual fantasies of someone on sight? Yeah. “She likes it rough; I can see it in her face.” Have fun with that assessment.
Racism. The Asian Fetish is something Asians ascribe to people who they just know are so taken by their general awesomeness and astounding magnetism that they can hardly think about anything else…. but only when they’re unappealing. An example – a Japanese woman chasing “clean cut” gentlemen (a euphemism for White guys) isn’t going to launch the label at a White male looking for a Japanese “fuck buddy” before she launches it at a Black male. The two may be in pursuit of the same thing but only one is a “creepy Asian fetishist”. See how that works?
This is a shit ton of comments for us. I love it. I should write about racism more. Racism; it pays.
It sure isa bacon gettin sumubabitch. It bringin it home and den sum.